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Info-Hams Digest            Tue, 12 Apr 94       Volume 94 : Issue  410

Today's Topics:
                      "Re: Re: EME PC Programs"
                April 12 Mid-Atlantic Hamfest Listing
                               CAT pgm
                     Data transmission over radio
                 FT-23r  audio noise using mic. jack
                         FT-530 DC CONNECTOR
                    Green Card Lottery- Final One?
                           Heinous? hardly
                              Icom 2SRA
                    IPS Daily Report - 12 April 94
                  Kenwood TH-78A  *OR*  Yaesu FT-530
                          Kenwood TS-450SAT
                        Moving To the Bay Area
                              QSL route
                     Repeaters in Monterey area?
                              subscribe
                  Telephone Number for Kenwood USA?
                        We wish you best 73's

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Date: 13 Apr 94 01:53:16 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: "Re: Re: EME PC Programs"
To: [e-mail]

An OH asked why PAY for SkyMoon when other EME prediction programs are free.

I'm certainly no expert on all the free programs (or SkyMoon for that matter),
but some of the features I saw in Skymoon are:

Window-type display of the Moon on a chart giving the sky's noise temperature.
Thus you can see what background QRN you will be fighting. I'm essentially
certain that sky-temperature charts for all common EME bands are included.

Ability to go forward and backward in time at desired rates, or to jump to
any date/time.  I suppose all EME programs have this.

I vaguely think that there is a S/N predictor, given powers, beam gains and
beamwidths, receiver bandwidth and noise tempertaure, etc, and the background
sky temperature.

Being a window-looking program, it is more "exciting" to watch than a program
which just listed numerical results (which it certainly gives).

Sorry for the convoluted English.

73 de [e-mail]   (no official endorsement(s) involved)

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Date: 12 Apr 1994 22:10:16 -0400
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!access.digex.net![e-mail]
Subject: April 12 Mid-Atlantic Hamfest Listing
To: [e-mail]

           MID-ATLANTIC HAMFEST LISTING                April 12, 1994


The following is a listing of known hamfests in the Mid-Atlantic area.
I will update this list as necessary. Please send any additions or
corrections to me at [e-mail] so that others may benefit.

If you know of any hamfests not in this list, please let me know about
them so that they may be included in the next edition.

Thanks,

Chris Smolinski, N3JLY


  April 10, 1994:

HAMCOMP '94 8AM-1PM, $5 adm, $12 tailgating, $20 table.
Trenton State College, Rt 31, Ewing Township.
Talk-In 146.67-, 146.52 simplex.
Contact Don Write AA2F [phone].


  May 7, 1994:

Kent Island ARC, 8AM-2PM, $4 adm, free tailgating
VFW, VFW Road, Behind Sleep Inn, Kent Island, MD
Talk-In 146.94/146.34


  May 15, 1994:

HAMFEST '94, 7AM-2PM, $5 adm, $8 tailgating, $12 tables.
Middletown Grange Fairgrounds, Penns Park Rd, Wrightstown, PA
Talk-In 147.09/R, 146.52 simplex
Contact: George Brechman N3HBT [phone]


  May 21, 1994:

Cherryville Hamfest, 8AM-2PM, $6 admission, $10 tailgating, $15 tables
Warren County Farmers Fairgrounds, Rt 518 North, Harmony, NJ I78-exit 3.
Contact Keith Burt, KF5FK, [phone] before 10PM
VE Test Session Contact Marty Grozinski, NS2K, [phone] before 9PM
Talk-In 147.375+ & 146.820-


  May 22, 1994:

Great Hagerstown Hamfest, 8AM-3:30PM, $5 adm, $5 tailgating, $20 tables
Hagerstown Jr COllege Rec Center, Exit 32B from I-70, right at Edgewood Rd
Contact Page Pyne or Fred Bailey [phone]
VE Exams 9AM contact Pat KQ8E at [phone]
Talk-In 146.34+


  June 5, 1994:

Ole Virgina Hams ARC Hamfest, 8AM-3PM $5 adm, $5 tailgating
Prince William County Fairgrounds, SR 234 Manassas, VA
Talk-In 146.97-, 224.66-
Contact Jim Hawk N3ODZ, PO Box 1255 Manassas, VA 22110


  June 18, 1994:

Raritan Valley Radio Club Hamfest, 8AM-2PM $5 adm, $7 tailgating
Columbia Park, Dunellen, NJ (Central NJ)
Talk-In 146.625-, 53.73- (PL110.9), 224.8- (PL110.9), 442.250+
(PL141.3),146.52
Contact Bill K2DI [e-mail], John WA2F [phone] (before
8:30 PM) or Bob WB2CVL [phone] (before 8:30 PM)
Tailgating registration recommended -- checks payable to"RVRC"
Send to Guy KE2CG, 240 Grant Ave, Piscataway NJ 08854


  June 19, 1994:

Father's Day Hamfest, 8AM-3PM, $5 adm, $5 tailgating
Walkersville Fire Co, Walkersville, MD, rt 15 to rt 26 to rt 194
Frederick Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 1260, Frederick, MD 21702
Talk-In 146.52, 147.06+, 448.425-


  July 10, 1994:

Maryland Hamfest, 8AM-?, tailgating opens at 6AM
Timonium Fairgrounds, York Rd, I-695 to I-83 to Timonium Rd
BRATS, PO BOx 5915, Baltimore, MD 21208
VE Exams 10AM, Pre-registration required
Talk-In 147.03+, 224.96-


  July 16, 1994:

Red Rose Repeater Assn, 9AM-3PM $5 adm, $5 tailgating, $20 tables
McCaskey High School, Reservoir & N Franklin Streets, Lancaster, PA
Red Rose Repeater Assn, PO Box 8316, Lancaster, PA 17604
Talk-In 147.015+


  August 7, 1994:

Southern Patuxent Hamfest, 7AM-2PM, $5 adm, $5 tailgating, $25 tables
Prince George County Equestrian Center, Upper Marlboro, MD
Rt 301/ Rt 4, exit 11-A (Rt 4 Pennsylvania Ave) from DC Beltway I-495
Contact: Southern Patuxent ARC, PO Box 399, St Leonard, MD 20685
         [phone]
Talk-In 147.15

Hamfest 94, 8AM-?, $5 adm, $3 tailgating
Bucks County Drive In Theater, rt 611, 6mi N of Pa Turnpike exit 27
Mid Atlantic Radio Club, PO Box 352, Villanova, PA 19085
Talk-In 147.06, 145.13


  August 14, 1994:

SARA Carroll County Hamfest, 8AM-?, $5 adm, $5 tailgating, $8 tables
Carroll County Ag Center, Smith Ave, Westminster, MD
Contact: Alan Parker, KS3L, [phone]
         SARA Hamfest, 607 Brentwood Rd, Linthicum, MD 21090
Talk-In 146.52, 224.68, 224.64


Hamfest & Computerfest, 8AM-?, $4 adm, $7 tailgating, $25 tables
Career Institute of Technology, Easton, PA
Delaware-Lehigh ARC, RR 4 Greystone Bldg, Nazareth, PA 18064-9211
[phone]
Talk-In 146.70


  September 9 & 10, 1994:

Queen Wilhelmina State Park,  Mena, Arkansas. $2 park entrance fee, $5 adm.
Contact Gerald Wallis, N5KKD, [phone]


  September 17&18, 1994:

Virginia Beach Hamfest $6 adm, $15 tailgating, $30 tables, $125 booths
Virginia BEach Pavillion
Manny Steiner, K4DOR, 3512 Olympia Lane, Virginia Beach, VA 23452
(804) HAM-FEST


  September 18,1994

South Jersey Radio Assn, 8AM-3PM, $5 admission, $5 tailgating
Pennsauken High School Parking Lot, near US rt 130 / NJ rt 73
Contact Diane Nafis, N2LCQ, [phone], [phone]
VEC Test Session registration at 9:30 AM
Talk-In 145.290-


  October 30, 1994:
Mason Dixon Hamfest 8AM-?, $5 adm, $5 tailgating, $15 tables
Carroll County Ag Center, Westminster, MD
Mason Dixon Hamfest, PO Box 763, Hanover, PA 17331
VE exams $5.60, 9AM, reg 8AM, Page Evans NE3P, [phone]
Talk-In 145.410-



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Date: 13 Apr 94 03:04:07 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: CAT pgm
To: [e-mail]

Hi Gang,

Anybody know of a PD/SW CAT pgm (DOS - NOT Windoze), that will work
on a Yaesu FT-736r?  If so, what FTP site.

Thanks in advance

Lynn Geitgey
KB0LRB

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Date: 12 Apr 1994 12:49:48 -0400
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!gatech!prism!prism![e-mail]
Subject: Data transmission over radio
To: [e-mail]

  First of all, this is not directly related to amateur radio.
For this I apologize.  But I figured that this group was most
likely to have the expertize I'm looking for.

  I'm working on a project that requires the transmission of
geo location data from a mobile source to a base station. The data
rate would be slow, so nothing really fancy is required.  I
understand that there are companies that provide this type of
service by satellite, but I'm looking for a simpler, cheaper
solution.

  I had in mind some sort of modem connection to a business band
radio.  Does anyone know of an off-the-shelf product that provides
an rs-232 connection to a laptop computer and connection to an
available business radio?  Are there radio-modems available that
would provide the functionality in one unit?

  In any case the solution will have to function in dense urban
environment with many tall buildings.

  I would appreciate any comments or suggestions.

Thanks

Jim Rhodes  N4BEB   [e-mail]
Research Engineer
Georgia Tech Research Institute
Atlanta, Georgia 30332
--
RHODES,JACOB M
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:      ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!jr15
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 13:28:34
From: ncrgw2.ncr.com!ncrhub2!jupiter.WichitaKS.NCR.COM!WichitaKS.NCR.COM![e-mail]
Subject: FT-23r  audio noise using mic. jack
To: [e-mail]

Have noticed much additional hiss on received audio while transmiting with a
speaker mike or any external source.  Even just shorting ptt/audio to ground
gives a noisey signal at the other receiver.  My ft-470 is fine with this same
test.  Anyone else have a simular problem?  Endemic of the 23 or something I
can fix?
Ken.

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Date: Sat,  9 Apr 94 20:12:00 -0800
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!amdahl!netcomsv!netcomsv!nitelog![e-mail]
Subject: FT-530 DC CONNECTOR
To: [e-mail]

MP>> Do you, or anyone reading this, where I can get a DC connector for the
MP>HT?

You'll find that a Sony plug fits well enough into the DC jack.  You can
pick them up at Radio Shack for $3.  They are part number 270-1575.
They are made to fit into a cable that RS sells, with which you can
change the polarity; but you can solder onto the ends without having to
buy that cable. The only problem:  with enough of an up and down
jiggle of the plug, you can cut the supply of current enough to turn the
rig on and off. The outer diameter must be a little too small - those
sneaky Yaesuits!  But overall it is less expensive than ordering from
Yaseu. Just watch those bumps in the road!

---
 │ OLX 2.1 TD │ Aloha+73 de Greg WH6DT [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 16:59:19 GMT
From: pacbell.com!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!netcom12![e-mail]
Subject: Green Card Lottery- Final One?
To: [e-mail]

Perhaps someone, preferably a lawyer, in Arizona, could drop a copy of
this message to the local bar association.

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Date: 12 Apr 94 18:35:08 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!att-out!cbnewsh![e-mail]
Subject: Heinous? hardly
To: [e-mail]

John Boteler writes:
>[e-mail] (Dan Ostroy ) writes:
>>Why do you assume that.  If I am an infrequent checkin on your
>>net, and my third listing is for McLean VA, would you know
>>who I am?
>
>As net control, I would say, "The station listing
>traffic for McLean, VA say your callsign only. Over."

Ah, but that requires the net control to make a followup
transmission after mine - a potentially unnecessary waste
of bandwidth if I had initially avoided doubling with the other
station by using the "here is <drop carrier>" technique.

This thread seems to be going in circles.  John and others have
described a net call up technique where stations check in with only
their call and an indicator of "traffic/no traffic."  That's fine.
In this case the "here is" is probably unnecessary and wasteful.

However,
there are other useful call up techniques  !!   Some have been described
by me and others in this newsgroup.  They are hardly "heinous".
If you can't deal with the technique employed by a particular net, avoid it.

>
>It's called good operating technique, something which
>is sadly lacking these days.
>

until I see an official proclamation of someone being appointed
arbiter of "good operating technique" I'll keep an open mind.

73, Dan

--
Dan Ostroy                                                         - K2UL -
AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ  USA  908-949-5922             [e-mail]

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Date: 12 Apr 94 16:04:34 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Icom 2SRA
To: [e-mail]

Ed,
    Well, I think you'd do fine with the 2SRA; I like mine.  The
only fault with it is the puny audio.  The tiny buttons may be a
problem, but there's not any real issue with the "coupling" of a rcvr
and the HT.  Not really sure what you were getting at, but it works
fine.

Paul
wb2oyc
ar..

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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 23:32:04 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!nac.no!ifi.uio.no!wabbit.cc.uow.edu.au!metro!ipso![e-mail]
Subject: IPS Daily Report - 12 April 94
To: [e-mail]

SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 12/2330Z APRIL 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 12 APRIL AND FORECAST UP TO 15 APRIL

IPS Warning 10 was issued on 31 March and is still current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: very low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 074/011

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             13 April           14 April           15 April
Activity     Very low           Very low           Very low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 075/013

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: unsettled to active

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 11 April
    Learmonth       18  3333 3443
    Fredericksburg  23                          29
    Planetary       25                          39

Observed Kp for 11 April: 4665 4334


2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
DATE      Ap    CONDITIONS
13 Apr    25    Unsettled to active however, the possibility of an
                isolated minor storm period still exists, particularly
                during night hours.
14 Apr    18    Unsettled to active.
15 Apr    10    Quiet to unsettled.

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
None.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
                LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH
12 Apr      normal         fair-normal    poor
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
                LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH
13 Apr      normal         fair-normal    poor
14 Apr      normal         normal         poor-fair
15 Apr      normal         normal         fair
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
NONE.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were depressed 20-30% 00-07, 17-20, 22UT and near
predicted monthly values otherwise. Spread F occurred 14-15UT and
strong sporadic E was observed 00-02, 11-14 and 16-19UT.

Observed T index for 12 April:  12

Predicted Monthly T Index for April is 40.

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
DATE   T-index  MUFs
13 Apr    20    Depressed to 20%.
14 Apr    30    Near predicted monthly values.
15 Apr    35    Near predicted monthly values.


4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
Strong sporadic E may affect F layer communications at times.
--
IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney           |IPS Radio and Space Services
email: [e-mail]  fax: [phone]      |PO Box 5606
RWC Duty Forecaster   tel: [phone]      |West Chatswood NSW 2057
Recorded Message      tel: [phone]      |AUSTRALIA

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Date: 13 Apr 1994 01:08:34 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ub!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!juliet.sas.upenn.edu!netaxs.com!davidson@@.
Subject: Kenwood TH-78A  *OR*  Yaesu FT-530
To: [e-mail]

On 9 Apr 1994 22:01:07 GMT Marc Richard Wollemborg
([e-mail]) wrote:

: Has anybody tried both of the above radios and could tell me which of the two
: I should choose?  I hear the Kenwood is nice and small, has a great display,
: but is a bit hard to program and does suffer from intermod problems.  Please
: email any "votes" or comments.  Thanks.

After playing with both of these and the Icom and reading the QST review I
bought the Alinco DJ580T.  It does most all of the things that the others
do, but it is cheaper and I found it easy to program and easy to modify.

73 de K3FZT (Steve)
--
Steven J. Davidson, MD, MBA, FACEP | 215.843.3001 voice | 215.843.3029 fax
Div. of EMS, 3426 Conrad Street, Suite 5, Philadelphia PA 19129-1651
[e-mail] | [e-mail] | [e-mail]
      Opinions are _all_ mine.  I'm often wrong, but never in doubt.

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Date: 12 Apr 94 21:03:16 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!att-out!cbnewsl![e-mail]
Subject: Kenwood TS-450SAT
To: [e-mail]

Christmas came in March this year and I was able to finally buy a new HF
Rig. I have a question regarding the difference between the CAR and the PWR
control knobs on the TS-450. They seem to have the same function and the
manual does not explain the difference. Can someone more experienced the
the operation of this radio explain the difference in these controls?

Thanks and 73,

Tony Gaeta
N2NKC

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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 06:23:23 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news.pipeline.com!malgudi.oar.net!witch!winward![e-mail]
Subject: Moving To the Bay Area
To: [e-mail]

Aloha !
I'm moving to the Bay area, and would be interested if there are
any Satellite (SAREX) folks that I could get connected with ? I
designed and built the SAREX station that is presently used in
Hawaii, and would like to continue this project on in the bay
area...

 so if any one of you are already active in SAREX with stations
or need an extra hand I'd like to help out.

I'll be in the bay area starting the 17th of April. Let me know
if there are any repeaters that have SAT. or SAREX interested
folks so I can maybe check in.


Steve W. Teegarden
WH6IC
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 17:29:42 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: QSL route
To: [e-mail]

Stephen Hawkins ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Steve,

: I still have a bug in that I cannot post to usenet.
: Would you mind putting one out to get an address for V21AS.
: Everyone says that's where to QSL V26AS, but V21AS is not
: in the Callbook.  The information below is even stranger!!!
: Thanks.

: Frank

Try:
V26AS
Joe
PO Box 1828
St. John's
Antigua
West Indies

73 de Sandy WA6BXH/7J1ABV   [e-mail]

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Date: 12 Apr 94 17:07:16 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Repeaters in Monterey area?
To: [e-mail]

Howard [[e-mail]] KE6DJL writes:

        We will be taking a trip to Monterey sometime so I'm looking for
        info on open 2m repeaters in that area.  We will also be in Solvang
        so info for that area would also be appreciated.


I can't help with Monterey, but assuming you are driving to Solvang, a good
2m repeater in the San Luis Obispo area is Questa Peak on
146.800 - pl 107.2, you can also try Cal Poly on 146.760 - pl 107.2.

Solvang has a repeater on 146.895 - no pl. Note that Solvang is in a
canyon, don't expect a lot of coverage from there.

South of Solvang try Santa Barbara on 146.790 - pl 131.8. Solvang is on a
point on the California coast that provides an effective line-of-sight
barrier to FM-VHF, so you are not likely to hit Questa from South of
Solvang, nor Santa Barbara from North of Solvang.

73

_____________________________________________________________________
Wm. A. Kirsanoff              Internet: [e-mail]
Rockwell International        Ham: KD6MCI
[phone]
Alternate Internet: [e-mail]
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Date: 12 Apr 94 21:36:16 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: subscribe
To: [e-mail]

subscribe info-ham Tom Murray

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Date: 12 Apr 1994 17:55:59 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!well!barrnet.net!parc!biosci!hubcap.clemson.edu!raphael![e-mail]
Subject: Telephone Number for Kenwood USA?
To: [e-mail]

  Does anyone have the number for Kenwood USA?  I checked the 1-800 in
the library but they didn't have an entry and I couldn't find it in
any of the CA telephone directories (it would help if I knew where
they are).

Please respond via email.

Thanks in advance,

Andy

--
  Andrew J. Greenshields N3IGS    |  Some people can tell what time it is by
  [e-mail]             |  looking at the Sun, but I have never been
  USPA A-18329                    |  able to make out the numbers.
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 17:12:46 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!jabba.ess.harris.com!news.ess.harris.com![e-mail]
Subject: We wish you best 73's
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Lawrence *The Dreamer* Chen) says:
>
>In article <2o42ok$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (prvalko) writes:
>>
>>hahahahaha
>>
>>Heard on the repeater, "You are full scale but really noisy."
>>
>>=paul= wb8zjl
>>
>
>Yeah, those amusing amateurs who don't know how repeaters work.....they can't
>understand how an Amateur too far away to talk direct comes in full scale on
>the repeater.
>
One I've heard is: Ham #1 is clear as a bell into the repeater.  Ham #2 is popping
in and out a lot and says, "I can't hear you very well.  Maybe it's your antenna
or something." {something is right!}

Another: Ham #1 and #2 are having a conversation on the repeater.  Ham #3 comes on
calling #4.  This happens several times.  Finally #1 and #2 finish their
conversation.  Eventually #3 and #4 get into a conversation.  3 says, "I've been
calling you but you didn't answer.  There must be something wrong with the
repeater.  I couldn't even hear it."  4 says, "I heard you.  You were transmitting
on top of someone elses' conversation.  Maybe your volume was turned down."  3 says,
"Yeah I guess they fixed the repeater.  So you can hear me now."  4 says, "Yes
I've been hearing you all along.  For some reason you could not hear the repeater."
3 says, "Well good, the repeater's fixed now."

Harv
WB4NPL

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Date: 12 Apr 94 20:59:09 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!modem66.ucdavis.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2o42ok$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>davi
Subject : Re: We wish you best 73's

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Harv Hobson) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Harv Hobson)
>Subject: Re: We wish you best 73's
>Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 17:12:46 GMT

[e-mail] (Lawrence *The Dreamer* Chen) says:

>Yeah, those amusing amateurs who don't know how repeaters work.....they can't
>understand how an Amateur too far away to talk direct comes in full scale on
>the repeater.


My favorite was the two repeater users in Stockton on a local repeater.  Ham 1
said "I wonder if we can talk to each other simplex?"   Ham 2 " I don't know
let's try"   Ham 1 " How do we do it?"   Ham 2 "Just hit the the reverse
button."  I eventually felt pity for them and helped explain how it worked for
them and they were able to rech each other simplex but you really have to
wonder how some people's minds work.


cheers,
dan
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Dan Todd    [e-mail]    KC6UUD
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